kUbuntu ili Ubuntu (KDE ili Gnome?)

kUbuntu ili Ubuntu (KDE ili Gnome???)
Koje grafičko sučelje je bolje i zašto? Molim da se iznese par komentara!!

Ima to vec na forumu kde ili gnome, potrazi malo.
Sto se tice tog Ubuntu ili Kubuntu mozes imati vise desktop ili grafickih okruzenja na linux-u.
Ako koristis ubuntu i ljepsi ti je onda instaliras kde preko synaptica povuce ti oko 700 mb i prilikom prijave izaberes sjednicu koju zelis imas lijevo u donjem cosku (ako zelis da ostane sve po starom izaberi gdm u dijalogu koji ti dodje).
Mozes instalirati i E17 imas temu pod http://forum.linux.org.ba/viewtopic.php?id=3261
Za mene je defaut Gnome, a mnogima KDE. Vecinom ces sam izabrati nakon izvjesnog vremena sta ti odgovara.

XFCE :slight_smile:

snimiš obadva, probaš, svide ti se (ili jedan… ili nijedan)

btw meni su obadva dobra, ali mi je konqueror (KDE file manager) bolji od nautilusa (GNOME file manager), kod KDE-a imaš amarok i kaffeine koji su beton za multimediju, firefox ne dolazi na kubuntu-u, ali ako to završiš u paketu ubuntu+kubuntu imaš sve na jednom mjestu…

nekom je KDE ljepši nekom GNOME, ali ko zna može naštimati obadva da izgledaju za 10, koliko sam ja primjetio da ubuntu (kao firma) više naginje na GNOME, ali u zadnje vrijem izgleda da daju dobru finansijsku injekciju KDE.org-u vidjeli smo Mark S. sa KDE majicom na nekom “sajmu” ili šta već…

nejse, probaš pa ćeš znati

možeš pogledati ovo:
http://forum.linux.org.ba/viewtopic.php?id=3463

a evo dio kako se dodaje KDE

[quote]dodavanje KDE-a i ostalog,

ovaj vjerovatno prvi nabavite (od raje):
ftp://ftp.bih.net.ba/pub/linux/ubuntu-6 … p-i386.iso

ovo su “extra” cd-ovi, koji se mogu iskoristiti da džaba ne trošite bandwith

ftp://ftp.bih.net.ba/pub/linux/kubuntu- … e-i386.iso
ftp://ftp.bih.net.ba/pub/linux/ubuntu-6 … r-i386.iso

ja to ovako…terminal pa kucanje

echo > /etc/apt/sources.list

sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-cdrom add

ubaciti kubuntu cd, kad očita, ponoviti komandu, pa ubaciti server cd…

(a može i onaj package manager pa da dodamo cd grafički, nejse)

poslije ovog dodavanja, skinuti što više stvari (mada nekome ne treba sve biće mu dovoljno samo kubuntu-desktop) sa cd-ova da ne bi bilo po bandwithu (paziti kako se kopira, ova linija je u kompletu od sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop do iptraf):

sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop build-essential linux-image-2.6.17-10-386 linux-headers-2.6.17-10-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386 ndiswrapper-utils-1.8 vim php5* samba smbfs mysql-client-5.0 mysql-server-5.0 libapache2-* openssh-server dhcp3-server vsftpd subversion cvs elinks knetworkmanager nmap traceroute dnstracer iptraf

kad nas pita koji DM… uzeti GDM (zatreba za xgl sesiju)

za dodavanje “internet repozitorija pogledati” # System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager -> Settings -> Repositories[/quote]
ps:
ja bih prvo snimio ubuntu pa dodao KDE da sam na tvom mjestu, jer bolje odradi gparted od qtparted-a particionisanje prilikom instalacije

psp:
evo kako izgledaju
http://forum.linux.org.ba/viewtopic.php?id=2469

ppps:
evo nekadašnje glasanje:
http://forum.linux.org.ba/viewpoll.php?id=2193

[quote=medo]Sto se tice tog Ubuntu ili Kubuntu mozes imati vise desktop ili grafickih okruzenja na linux-u.
Ako koristis ubuntu i ljepsi ti je onda instaliras kde preko synaptica povuce ti oko 700 mb…[/quote]
mali demant

tačnije, na ovaj dole način “KDE” je težak oko 200MB bilo sa interneta ili cd-a:

aldin@kanta:~$ sudo apt-get -d install kubuntu-desktop
Reading package lists… Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information… Done
The following extra packages will be installed:

0 upgraded, 207 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/198MB of archives.
After unpacking 563MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y

Bolje cu pogledati kod slijedece verzije Ubuntu :wink:
medo@medo-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install kde
Paketlisten werden gelesen… Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut
Reading state information… Fertig
kde ist schon die neueste Version.
Nesto sam vidio 700 ~ 780 mb

Ako ja lazem nelaze slovo :wink:
Znaci 183MB
Kod otpakivanja 509 MB
Ovo je kod nove instalacije
medo@medo-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install kde
Paketlisten werden gelesen… Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut
Reading state information… Fertig
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
libmp4v2-0 libmp4v2-dev
Use ‘apt-get autoremove’ to remove them.
Die folgenden zusätzlichen Pakete werden installiert:
akregator amor ark arts artsbuilder atlantik atlantikdesigner blinken
comerr-dev dcoprss dirmngr edict enscript eyesapplet fifteenapplet
gettext-kde gnupg-agent gnupg2 gpgsm hspell juk kaboodle kaddressbook
kaddressbook-plugins kalarm kalzium kalzium-data kamera kanagram kandy
kanjidic kappfinder karm kasteroids kate kate-plugins katomic kaudiocreator
kbackgammon kbattleship kblackbox kbounce kbruch kbstate kcalc kcharselect
kcoloredit kcontrol kcron kdat kde-amusements kde-core kdeaccessibility
kdeaddons kdeaddons-kfile-plugins kdeadmin kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdeartwork
kdeartwork-emoticons kdeartwork-misc kdeartwork-style kdeartwork-theme-icon
kdeartwork-theme-window kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdebase-kio-plugins
kdeedu kdeedu-data kdegames kdegames-card-data kdegraphics
kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelibs kdelibs4-dev kdelirc kdemultimedia
kdemultimedia-dev kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins
kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdepasswd
kdepim kdepim-kfile-plugins kdepim-kio-plugins kdepim-kresources
kdepim-wizards kdeprint kdesdk-scripts kdesktop kdessh kdetoys kdeutils
kdewallpapers kdewebdev kdf kdict kdnssd kdvi kedit keduca kenolaba kfax
kfaxview kfilereplace kfind kfloppy kfouleggs kgamma kget kghostview
kgoldrunner kgpg khangman khelpcenter khexedit kicker kicker-applets
kiconedit kig kimagemapeditor kitchensync kiten kjots kjumpingcube
klaptopdaemon klatin kleopatra klettres klettres-data klickety klines
klinkstatus klipper kmag kmahjongg kmail kmailcvt kmenuedit kmid kmilo
kmines kmix kmoon kmousetool kmouth kmplot kmrml knetwalk knetworkconf
knewsticker knewsticker-scripts knode knotes kodo kolf kolourpaint kommander
konq-plugins konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konquest konsole konsolekalendar
kontact kooka kopete korganizer korn kpackage kpager kpat kpdf kpercentage
kpersonalizer kpf kpilot kpoker kpovmodeler kppp krdc krec kregexpeditor
kreversi krfb kruler ksame ksayit kscd kscreensaver kscreensaver-xsavers
kshisen ksig ksim ksirc ksirtet ksmiletris ksmserver ksnake ksnapshot
ksokoban kspaceduel ksplash kstars kstars-data ksvg ksync ksysguard
ksysguardd ksysv kteatime ktimer ktip ktnef ktouch ktron kttsd ktuberling
kturtle ktux kuser kverbos kview kviewshell kvoctrain kwalletmanager
kweather kwifimanager kwin kwin4 kwordquiz kworldclock kxsldbg libacl1-dev
libakode2 libart-2.0-dev libarts1-akode libarts1-audiofile libarts1-dev
libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libartsc0-dev libaspell-dev libattr1-dev
libaudio-dev libavahi-client-dev libavahi-common-dev
libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 libavahi-qt3-dev libboost-python1.33.1 libbz2-dev
libconvert-binhex-perl libcupsys2-dev libcvsservice0 libdb4.3++c2
libdbus-1-dev libdbus-qt-1-1c2 libfinance-quote-perl libgcrypt11-dev
libglib2.0-dev libgnutls-dev libgpg-error-dev libgpgme11
libhtml-tableextract-perl libidn11-dev libindex0 libio-stringy-perl
libjasper-1.701-dev libjasper-runtime libjpeg-progs libkadm55 libkcal2b
libkcddb1 libkdeedu3 libkdegames1 libkdepim1a libkgantt0 libkiten1
libkleopatra1 libkmime2 libkonq4 libkpimexchange1 libkpimidentities1
libkrb5-dev libksba8 libkscan1 libksieve0 libktnef1 liblcms1-dev liblockdev1
liblua50-dev liblualib50-dev liblzo-dev libmailtools-perl libmal1
libmime-perl libmimelib1c2a libmng-dev libnews-nntpclient-perl libnss-mdns
liboggflac3 libopencdk8-dev libpcre3-dev libpcrecpp0 libpoppler1-qt libpth20
libqt3-headers libqt3-mt-dev librss1 libsasl2-dev libssl-dev libtasn1-3-dev
libtidy-0.99-0 libtiff-tools libtimedate-perl libtunepimp-bin libtunepimp3
libxml2-dev libxslt1-dev lskat lua50 mpeglib networkstatus noatun
noatun-plugins pinentry-qt poster psutils qt3-dev-tools quanta quanta-data
secpolicy superkaramba tidy ttf-dustin ttf-sjfonts
Vorgeschlagene Pakete:
monopd kdeedu-doc-html lookup xjdic sdic-edict gnupg-doc xloadimage
kdeaddons-doc-html lame gnubg kde-i18n kttsd-contrib-plugins
kdeaccessibility-doc-html kdeadmin-doc-html kdebase-doc-html mtools
kdegames-doc-html kdegraphics-doc-html kdemultimedia-doc-html
kdenetwork-doc-html kdepim-doc-html egroupware efax hylafax-client
mgetty-fax kdesdk-doc-html dmalloc kdelibs4-doc qt3-doc valgrind
kdetoys-doc-html kdeutils-doc-html kommander-dev kdewebdev-doc-html zeroconf
menu xmms-kde spamassassin bogofilter annoyance-filter clamav
f-prot-installer libgcj7-awt povray aspell-doc libgcrypt11-doc
libglib2.0-doc gnutls-doc gnutls-bin krb5-doc nscd libqt3-i18n
libtiff-opengl libtunepimp3-dev pinentry-doc gv gubed tidy-doc
Empfohlene Pakete:
ncompress zoo p7zip pinentry-curses pinentry vorbis-tools flac
kde-icons-mono lilo-config kdm kdenetwork-filesharing ktalkd lisa gawk
tetex-bin procmail imagemagick ocrad gocr qca-tls libio-socket-ssl-perl
libqt3-compat-headers cervisia kompare phpdoc wdg-html-reference
docbook-defguide
Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
akregator amor ark arts artsbuilder atlantik atlantikdesigner blinken
comerr-dev dcoprss dirmngr edict enscript eyesapplet fifteenapplet
gettext-kde gnupg-agent gnupg2 gpgsm hspell juk kaboodle kaddressbook
kaddressbook-plugins kalarm kalzium kalzium-data kamera kanagram kandy
kanjidic kappfinder karm kasteroids kate kate-plugins katomic kaudiocreator
kbackgammon kbattleship kblackbox kbounce kbruch kbstate kcalc kcharselect
kcoloredit kcontrol kcron kdat kde kde-amusements kde-core kdeaccessibility
kdeaddons kdeaddons-kfile-plugins kdeadmin kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdeartwork
kdeartwork-emoticons kdeartwork-misc kdeartwork-style kdeartwork-theme-icon
kdeartwork-theme-window kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdebase-kio-plugins
kdeedu kdeedu-data kdegames kdegames-card-data kdegraphics
kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelibs kdelibs4-dev kdelirc kdemultimedia
kdemultimedia-dev kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins
kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdepasswd
kdepim kdepim-kfile-plugins kdepim-kio-plugins kdepim-kresources
kdepim-wizards kdeprint kdesdk-scripts kdesktop kdessh kdetoys kdeutils
kdewallpapers kdewebdev kdf kdict kdnssd kdvi kedit keduca kenolaba kfax
kfaxview kfilereplace kfind kfloppy kfouleggs kgamma kget kghostview
kgoldrunner kgpg khangman khelpcenter khexedit kicker kicker-applets
kiconedit kig kimagemapeditor kitchensync kiten kjots kjumpingcube
klaptopdaemon klatin kleopatra klettres klettres-data klickety klines
klinkstatus klipper kmag kmahjongg kmail kmailcvt kmenuedit kmid kmilo
kmines kmix kmoon kmousetool kmouth kmplot kmrml knetwalk knetworkconf
knewsticker knewsticker-scripts knode knotes kodo kolf kolourpaint kommander
konq-plugins konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konquest konsole konsolekalendar
kontact kooka kopete korganizer korn kpackage kpager kpat kpdf kpercentage
kpersonalizer kpf kpilot kpoker kpovmodeler kppp krdc krec kregexpeditor
kreversi krfb kruler ksame ksayit kscd kscreensaver kscreensaver-xsavers
kshisen ksig ksim ksirc ksirtet ksmiletris ksmserver ksnake ksnapshot
ksokoban kspaceduel ksplash kstars kstars-data ksvg ksync ksysguard
ksysguardd ksysv kteatime ktimer ktip ktnef ktouch ktron kttsd ktuberling
kturtle ktux kuser kverbos kview kviewshell kvoctrain kwalletmanager
kweather kwifimanager kwin kwin4 kwordquiz kworldclock kxsldbg libacl1-dev
libakode2 libart-2.0-dev libarts1-akode libarts1-audiofile libarts1-dev
libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libartsc0-dev libaspell-dev libattr1-dev
libaudio-dev libavahi-client-dev libavahi-common-dev
libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 libavahi-qt3-dev libboost-python1.33.1 libbz2-dev
libconvert-binhex-perl libcupsys2-dev libcvsservice0 libdb4.3++c2
libdbus-1-dev libdbus-qt-1-1c2 libfinance-quote-perl libgcrypt11-dev
libglib2.0-dev libgnutls-dev libgpg-error-dev libgpgme11
libhtml-tableextract-perl libidn11-dev libindex0 libio-stringy-perl
libjasper-1.701-dev libjasper-runtime libjpeg-progs libkadm55 libkcal2b
libkcddb1 libkdeedu3 libkdegames1 libkdepim1a libkgantt0 libkiten1
libkleopatra1 libkmime2 libkonq4 libkpimexchange1 libkpimidentities1
libkrb5-dev libksba8 libkscan1 libksieve0 libktnef1 liblcms1-dev liblockdev1
liblua50-dev liblualib50-dev liblzo-dev libmailtools-perl libmal1
libmime-perl libmimelib1c2a libmng-dev libnews-nntpclient-perl libnss-mdns
liboggflac3 libopencdk8-dev libpcre3-dev libpcrecpp0 libpoppler1-qt libpth20
libqt3-headers libqt3-mt-dev librss1 libsasl2-dev libssl-dev libtasn1-3-dev
libtidy-0.99-0 libtiff-tools libtimedate-perl libtunepimp-bin libtunepimp3
libxml2-dev libxslt1-dev lskat lua50 mpeglib networkstatus noatun
noatun-plugins pinentry-qt poster psutils qt3-dev-tools quanta quanta-data
secpolicy superkaramba tidy ttf-dustin ttf-sjfonts
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KDE :smiley:

Mozda nebi bio los niti jedan Gnome :wink:

ili lookingglass

Koje su ti ovo ikone na prvoj slici?Daj mi link

Malo je sa ovog linka: http://www.taimila.com/ubuntuosx.php
A ikone sam preko Gimp-a sredjivao ili dodavao iz razlicitih ikon tema Defaut je Human. Dok desktop i gdesklet opet rucno odradjeno.
A sinoc je i panel dosao na red http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1239/bildschirmfoto5ax6.png
Ako zelis mogu ih negdje uploadovat.

Ne bi bilo loše da napišeš kraći howto za napucavanje desktopa poput ovog tvog primjera. :smiley:

Ja se nikada nisam peglao gotovim paketom koji mi uljepsa desktop (mozda i grijesim), nego onaj defaultni sredjujem dio po dio: promijenim svaku ikonicu poimenice koja mi se ne svidja, i takav izgled mi uvijek bude ljepsi nego onaj koji odradjuju “automati” :slight_smile:
Inspiraciju dobivam iz gomile icon pack-ova koje skinem sa neta.

breathtaking

http://forum.linux.org.ba/viewtopic.php?id=3549
trazi Katastrofa Ikone samo su plave i kafene a ne crvene :mrgreen:

Da ne otvaram novi topic , vidim da je tu zapoceto rješenje mojeg problema pa ovako:
Imam instaliran Ubuntu 6.06 na Gnome sucelju i sad bi htio dodat KDE sučelje , a imam CD od Kubunta 6.10. Pa me zanima kako to napraviti ? Inace sam početnik pa mi je sve pomalo čudno :). KDE sučelje mi treba radi Ktechlaba.

Probao sam ovaj postupak koji je napiso aldin , ali javi mi kod upisivanja prve naredbe javlja ovo:
bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied !!
Šta mi je činiti ?

[quote=Slatkish1984]kUbuntu ili Ubuntu (KDE ili Gnome???)
Koje grafičko sučelje je bolje i zašto? Molim da se iznese par komentara!![/quote]
Posto Ubuntu puno vise radi na GNOMEu (iz iskustva) predlazem ti da uzmes Ubuntu jer Kubuntu zna bit buggy i veoma naporan. No ako se odlucis za KDE kasnije, instaliras KDE paket cime tvoj Ubuntu sinka Kubuntu :smiley: (don’t flame me for digimons :smiley: )

Btw , rješio sam problem , još nešto … Ak ti se naravno da probat. Meni treba ubuntu samo za seminarski , naime , treba mi jedna program ( Ktechlab ). Sjećam se da je bio instaliran na Ubuntu i da nije bilo nikakvih problema… Kad sam ga ja iso instaliravat , javio mi je da nemam podršku od KDE sučelja. Sad sam skino KDE i mogu raditi u KUbuntu s tim programom . Zanimam me dal taj program može ikako raditi na Gnomu ? Sigurno može jer je radio na vježbama…

Normalno moze raditi bilo koji program koji je za KDE na Gnome desktopu, jedino sto ces i onako povuci pola KDE-a sa tim programom dok ga instaliras.

@adioe3 kad si zadnji put probao Kubuntu, možda je bio nekad bugovit KDE, i da su ga zanemarivali, evo ja ih koristim naizmjenično i haman isti postotak “bug repporta” se javi, odnosno vremena stabilnosti, čak šta više zabrinjava me povećan broj bug repporta kod ovog 6.10 (GNOME-a), a smanjenje bugrepporta kod KDE-a (ovo kod KDE-a me raduje)

@medo ne mora da znači, uglavnom je potreban libqt i kdelibs… ne izađe više od jedno 50MB koliko se ja sjećam ali haj kad probam javići tačnu cifru pa da i ovo “znamo” odgovoriti koliko GNOME povuče MB za jednu KDE app

[quote]Probao sam ovaj postupak koji je napiso aldin , ali javi mi kod upisivanja prve naredbe javlja ovo:
bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied !!
Šta mi je činiti ?[/quote]
@Jas0n-X, ma nema problema moraš samo dodati ubuntu repositorije i onda uraditi update i install tog programa, prije toga noramalno da neće jer nema informaciju odakle da skida taj paket

znači na glavnom meniju klikni na system->administration->synaptic package manager->Settings->Repositories->checkiraš šta ti treba->reload pa onda u search ime paketa -> apply
ps:
moraću negdje na pastebin staviti ovu liniju lol, zatreba ovako…